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| So, um, Neal and Peter still have some issues to work out . . . |
As you've probably guessed, I voted "No, they've been through too much together." Although Matt Bomer and Tim DeKay are fantastic actors who can sell both the tension and the love between them, I still think the time has come to allow them to grow into a more trusting relationship on all levels. And I didn't fundamentally buy the conflict between them in Gloves Off, because if either of them had just spoken up, the whole thing could have been avoided. And, as I see it, they've been through enough together now to have spoken up.
("Hey Peter, I met with Sam but didn't show him the tape." Or, "Hey Neal. I know you were meeting with Sam while Elizabeth was over. You didn't show him the tape, did you?" Easy way to have avoided the whole problem, guys! Yeesh.)
That said, I admit there is a respectable argument to be made from both sides, as the poll and the comments on it show. Here are our official results:
Yes, these two shouldn't trust each other completely yet. 39 (39%)
No, they've been through too much together. 41 (41%)
It depends--I'll explain in the comments. 10 (10%)
I don't care--just give me more shirtless!Neal and shirtless!Peter. 9 (9%)
Votes: 99
A big thank you to everyone who voted, commented or both!
9 comments:
So now that the poll is closed, it's no longer on the sidebar. Is there a way to read the comments?
Sure, the comments are on the post highlighted in the first paragraph here. (Click on that and it will take you right there. The post is called First Thoughts: Gloves Off.)
P.S. Just to be clear--the highlighted words 'on this question' in the first paragraph lead to the other post. Or you can just scroll down through the posts. :)
I think it is belivable, because those are issues which have been around and never dealt with for a long, long time. Neal normally accepts that Peter is invading his privacy and sending him undercover without a second thought, but that doesn't make it necessarily right all the time. There have been so many situations in the last seasons in which Peter was clearly out of line and Neal surpressed his anger. After all, he is a con man, and his placement at the FBI relies heavily on Peter good-will. And it makes sense that the issue would come up now that Neal is trying to explore himself. That's what the whole thing is about imho, Neal has been a con man for so long that he is now trying to find out who he really is. That's a really raw subject, and Peter poking around in that, never mind his motivations, must hurt. Yeah, there were some contrived moments this season, like the deal with the betamax, but overall, I have waited for Neal to tell Peter off for invading his privacy so much (he even interfered in Neal's love live for god's sake!) for a long, long time, and I'm glad it finally happened.
Agree Anon @342am. people think Neal should have done a 360 in 3 years and just not realistic, then add the entire family background dynamic, it would really make me angry too. Love both characters but Neal right to be so angry. After all, Peter's behavior is job related, Neal's behaviour is based on personal hurt.
Sorry I missed the vote, but I agree with you, it's becoming unrealistic and boringly repetitive. the distrust made total sense to me in season 3, like they had to go that path to work their way through it, but given all they have been through together since, I don't really get it.
And I'm actually a little worried because everyone seem (I mean Jeff and co) to think there has to be some tension, like forever, and I so disagree with that.
Not every show is Moonlighting. I hate when they keep the tension forever, like with Tony and Ziva in NCIS. At least, Castle was smart enough to make the jump. I wished White Collar would do, and explore other things that the trust issue...
Aragarna, you're right. "Not every show is Moonlighting." Thank you. For every example of a show that failed because it let go of the tension, there's another example of a show that made it through perfectly fine. Castle. Bones. Heck, even The Office.
The situation between Neal and Peter is completely different from all the others. Their relationship is not based on free will. Neal is working for the FBI and with Peter because he has to. Yes, of course they are friends and Neal (usually) enjoys to work with Peter. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter whether he likes it or not. They are not equals. Peter has the right to intervene in Neals life whenever he chooses. As long as they aren't equals it's imo only logical that there will remain some tension between them.
I really wanted to choose TWO options: that Yes, the boys SHOULD trust each other a bit more by now, AND that whatever the reason, more Shirtless!Neal (and Shirtless!Peter) is ALWAYS good... and no need to stop at just the shirts! Hey, why not a plot twist in January which requires the entire White Collar team to go undercover in an off-Broadway re-make of "The Full Monty"? :-)
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